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Alfa 11-The other side of Tido's Story

Posted in Dog Training | By: Rajesh Bhatt | 11 May 2011 12:40 pm    

To all pet lovers and pet owners,

This is for the true dog lover who understands dogs and has an experience of one or more dogs.

This is also for the  first timer to know about the facts of dog keeping and enjoying the company of their dog.

We would like to share with you about a Golden Retriever called Tido who unfortunately passed on during his stay at the farm.  He had come to ALFA 11 on the 13th of March 2011 for behaviour correction at the age of 10 plus.

The background given to me by the owners, Mr and Mrs Haldar was that he was prone to biting and was relatively unpredictable, which is why he was always kept with the domestic help in their quarters.  The domestic help was also bitten by Tido on a number of occasions from a very young age.

Upon the domestic help quitting the family's employment,  Tido had to be brought into the house.  Within 4 to 5 days of Tido being brought in, family members were bitten, that to more than a couple of times, including Mrs Anjana Haldar.

Now the question is that at the age of 10 plus, a Golden Retriever who has passed his prime and had been biting people all his life, is now sent for behavior correction? I am sure that you all know how docile this breed is otherwise.

I took Tido in because it has been my experience (for the past 26 years working with dog owners and dog organizations) that when a dog starts biting his owners, the first and only reaction is "put the dog to sleep" or "send the dog to an animal shelter" or "abandon him on the road" and this is the reason why  ALFA 11 took Tido in as we believe in giving such dogs their due chance.  This we have done many times before and we still have at ALFA 11 have many dogs who would have been put to sleep by now.

We also believe that no human has any right to put any dog to sleep just because the owner could not understand his/her dog, who has started biting people.

I worked with Tido for a month and a half for his behavioral correction.  Mr and Mrs Haldar came to visit Tido 2 days prior to his demise.

(as they have mentioned the same in their blog)

There were no signs of being ill treated or bad health and was happily playing with his attendant Laxmi Narayan.

The Haldars left happily but  Tido was sad with the parting.  Just like when you visit your child at boarding school for the first time and leave him.

On 2nd May 2011 (after 2 days of The Haldars visit), 3 hours prior to Tido's demise, he was taken to the vet for a blood test as requested by the Haldars due to his old age, since he was to be neutered.

The same afternoon, Tido was found staggering in his room by his attendant Laxmi Narayan and was immediately rushed to the vet who is only 3.5 km away from the farm. Unfortunately, Tido breathed his last at the vet's clinic. The vet proclaimed that Tido had suffered a cardiac arrest.

Based on this, could Tido have gone into depression (animals get depressed upon seeing owners and have them leave again, no matter how well looked after the dog is in any facility. (the same can be verified by the world's best dog experts)

No animal lover can bear the loss of animals.  We are here because we love them.

Anjali Sharma

This reads like nonsense !

Before you spin such fairy tales, just remember, for making the sort of allegations that you are against the owners, they could sue you for defamation. Are you alleging that Mr. and Mrs. Haldar suggested you 'put the dog to sleep', or thought of sending him to a shelter, or abadoning him on the road? Wrong, absolutely wrong. What you seem to have been guilty of Mr. Bhatt - as an increasing number of people (whose dogs, allegedly, have suffered badly at your kennel) are urging -is pure and simple criminal breach of entrustment. The Haldars are not the only ones. I have been contacted by at least 2 other people with similar complaints. Do remember, our animal welfare laws may not pack the necessary punch, but there is plenty in the Indian Penal Code, that can make things very uncomfortable for you.

By: Anjali Sharma | 11 May 2011

Dippankar S Halder

This response is neither directed to Rajesh Bhatt nor his subordinate under the name of Mohit Gulati (with fake id). Unfortunately Rajesh Bhatt finally lost his opportunity to confess and cross over to the right side, the side of truth. Well some people prefer to stay at the other side always.

This response is to protect the right of all pet lovers and pet owners not to fall in the traps of people like Alfa 11 once again.

In his blog Rajesh Bhatt has put a lot of fictitious stuff in our mouth and in our house. He has made Tido a biting monster and old dog and so on. We are in touch with our legal counsel for a defamation suit.

All that happened was as follows :

We were exploring some behavioural training for Tido. When Anjana spoke with Rajesh he asked us to bring Tido to his farm. After watching Tido for about 30 mins or so Rajesh termed as fit and fine, over enthusiastic Alpha male dog who is mentally not more than 2 years old. He said that his behaviour has happened due to the fact that he has been over pampered by us (and we are proud of it). He proposed a 4 month programme with first 45 days of no contact with the family. (Well Gulati with fake id did miss this point as he kept on saying that we visited Tido all of first 45 days).

Rajesh also showed us his demonstration with Malinois trainer dog to impress us. And as luck would have it we had fallen into his trap. Incidentally I did receive a call from one well wisher, Mr. Rakesh Kumar from East Delhi that Rajesh proposed the same to him for his German Shepherd. However Mr. Kumar smelt an attempt of moneymaking and decided not to go ahead.

The story Rajesh Bhatt is the great trainer who saves dogs from put to sleep is no good any more, at least in this case. This is a case where Tido went to sleep due to negligence and poor facility of Alfa 11.

Please visit http://alfa11kennel.blogspot.c om with the detail (with some photographs as well)

A few highlights :

• Non functional AC in the place where dogs are put up. (Golden Retriever needs 27 degree celcious or less )
• One 15x15 room with over 15 dogs , 3 large beds and 3 attendants
• Tido’s attendent Laxmi, ex security guard , 3 months in the job, has no prior training (As told to cops in Kapashera police station, weight loss training means feeding once a day and getting chased all day by two agile dogs)
• No grooming – Ticks were found on Tido
• No resident doctor or basic medical facility
• No transport at facility to take care of emergency

When we spoke to Dr. Josan I enquired specifically about the duration a pet survives when struck with heat stroke or Tick fever. He mentioned that it depends on the health and should be at least 1 hour in worst case. How long does it take to travel 3.5 Km by car? Or was it on feet?

Other side of the story is all about hiding the truth of negligence and poor facility in the name of premium dog spa.

Nice attempt by Rajesh Bhatt…. I am sure we all know what he really loves.

By: Dippankar S Halder | 11 May 2011

Agam Prabhakar

1) Rajesh Bhatt... Please stop thinking you are GOD of the DOG world. The truth is, you are simply a MAN (if at all) living off money earned via animals.

2) What took you so long to reply, i am sure your lovers would have updated you about this blog long back.

3) if you are suggesting Haldars wanted to pur Tido to sleep, why would they contact you. Are you qualified enough to put any sould to sleep leave alone TIDO.

4) Tido was never living in a servant quarter, unfortunately thereis none that Haldars have

5) if they wanted YOU to put Tido to sleep, you being the self proclaimed Masiah of Dog, why didnt you report this to the Cops knowing its illegal.

6) Even if Haldars wanted to put the dog to sleep and you assisted them, you need to be behind bars. ( since Tido died in unknown circumstances)

7) If haldars wanted to kill Tido, they approached you, you killed him, why would they make such a fuss about it and get themselves into so much agony.

8) Dogs go into depression, if they were treated well by their owners and suddenly there was change of surrounding, environment and people and with people who dont care enough. in this case COUNT YOURSELF the CUKPRIT

9) Tido was 8 yrs and 5 months old. NOT 10. Even a month's difference in Dog age counts ( WONDER IF YOU ARE EDUCATED ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT)

10) I dont know why or what HALDARS thought about biting issue with TIDO, but my concern is WHY DID YOU TAKE HIM IN. Was he an Experiment...?

11) Rajesh Bhatt, had you apologized here and accepted your fault, i am sure Haldhars , me and other dog lovers would have forgiven you.

12) Ticks on Tido...? he was there for a loooooong time at alfa 11... have you not heard of NOTIX powder, are you so so so stupid.?? and you claim you have an experience of 26yrs. My neighbours Todler knows that NOTIX is what needs to be put on a DOG if ticks are seen on a dog.

You have stooped sooooo low that even a maggot would not like to hear your name.
Be ashamed of yourself instead of putting the blame of TIDO on their owners.YOU earn your livelihood because of these children.

If what Haldars say is true " • Non functional AC in the place where dogs are put up. (Golden Retriever needs 27 degree celcious or less )
• One 15x15 room with over 15 dogs , 3 large beds and 3 attendants
• Tido’s attendent Laxmi, ex security guard , 3 months in the job, has no prior training (As told to cops in Kapashera police station, weight loss training means feeding once a day and getting chased all day by two agile dogs)
• No grooming – Ticks were found on Tido
• No resident doctor or basic medical facility
• No transport at facility to take care of emergency

you need too book your place in hell cauz i have a strong feeling that no one wants you there either.

PS: Tell your pappus and your lovers to steer away cauz you are a murderer.













By: Agam Prabhakar | 11 May 2011

Salvadore Petz

Dear Mr Bhaat, let me tell you something - it really pains mentally when you lose your own dog. You seem to have no emotional bonding with any dog. That is the clear reason why you are posting stories like the other side and all only to wash your hand from this incident.

Dear Halders, Please do not hesitate even for a moment to action on such kind of creatures who care only about money and carry no passion for DOGS.

I would also suggest Halders to take a second opinion from a VET known to you about this incidence to boost your stand in this case.

I would also request you to visit our family in Bangalore and spend time with our lovely Lab and GSD atleast for a moment to come out of the stress you are undergoing.....

Dear DOG lovers i would urge each one of you to think twice before you leave your loved ones in a boarding. Also would suggest to get a medical check up done before you board ( This will make the care taker serious in dealing with your DOG)

By: Salvadore Petz | 12 May 2011

Tamanna

Dear Mr Rajesh Bhatt

Your blog doesn't even deserve a comment. But still i'm writing because I wonder how low can you really stoop now. I too have lost my pet at your farm last year...Ballu the 5yr old St Bernard who was left in your care for 3nights but due to the negligence of your people he passed away within 24hours. Yes Mr Bhatt every story has 2sides...what was the other side of Ballu's story that you'll tell us now?? That he too was unwell? No Mr Bhatt..he was not. He was just 5yrs old, perfectly healthy and he died under your care. Cardiac arrest..how convenient is that !! We had absolutely insisted that he be kept in a/c and was not to be taken out during the day at all. What did your helpers do that he just collapsed in less than 24hrs?We were too far away to even be able to come back to bury him and was too shattered to take you to task on return. I wish I had..it would have spared Tido's life and god knows how many others who have suffered because of you.

I don't run a kennel like you do but I have been with dogs my entire life so have 35 years of experience with them. Yes Golden Retrievers are docile but they too can bite...my Golden retriever did. You see Mr Bhatt, they are dogs..biting comes more naturally to them than we would like to believe. I can't help but wonder what kind of people you've been interacting with who think that abandoning or putting dog to sleep is the only way of handling a dog that bites. All around me I have dog owners and lovers, many of whom have been bitten by their pets but none of them have even thought of abandoning their pets. Our children misbehave too. Do we abandon them as well?

Another thing Mr Bhatt no matter how good your domestic help is, the pets somehow always know and can differentiate between the master-owner and the domestic help. In my 35years with various pets, i'm yet to see a case where the pet was more attached to the help than the owner.

What is it that you are trying to imply in your blog I fail to get. That Haldars were cruel owners? That they wanted to abandon their pet/put him to sleep? That Tido was a biting monster? Even if, for the sake of argument, one is to accept what you say, why did you take Tido in? On humanitarian grounds ? And a some money coming in doesn't hurt either right? Why not just refuse? Abandoning a pet is not a big deal in our country as you too are aware. He died in your care Mr Bhatt, not theirs. That puts the blame solely on your head.

You are right Mr Bhatt. No animal lover can bear their loss. But we are dealing with the loss of our babies, Tido and Ballu. There are a lot of angry mothers out there whom you've given sleepless nights. Do you know what it feels like to get up in cold sweat in the middle of the night and realise that the head you loved to pat will never be there? That you'll never hear the welcoming bark ever again in your life? That the drool which spoiled your clothes will never do so again? Are you even capable of understanding the shock that a phone call announcing your pet's death gives you and turns your whole world upside down? No Mr Bhatt you can not. Yes death is inevitable and when time comes each one of us will go. But murder is neither inevitable nor pardonable. Do not add insult to injury by insinuating whatever it is that you are trying to.

Ballu and Tido died in your care and they deserve justice.



By: Tamanna | 13 May 2011

Tamanna

Dear Mr Rajesh Bhatt

Your blog doesn't even deserve a comment. But still i'm writing because I wonder how low can you really stoop now. I too have lost my pet at your farm last year...Ballu the 5yr old St Bernard who was left in your care for 3nights but due to the negligence of your people he passed away within 24hours. Yes Mr Bhatt every story has 2sides...what was the other side of Ballu's story that you'll tell us now?? That he too was unwell? No Mr Bhatt..he was not. He was just 5yrs old, perfectly healthy and he died under your care. Cardiac arrest..how convenient is that !! We had absolutely insisted that he be kept in a/c and was not to be taken out during the day at all. What did your helpers do that he just collapsed in less than 24hrs?We were too far away to even be able to come back to bury him and was too shattered to take you to task on return. I wish I had..it would have spared Tido's life and god knows how many others who have suffered because of you.

I don't run a kennel like you do but I have been with dogs my entire life so have 35 years of experience with them. Yes Golden Retrievers are docile but they too can bite...my Golden retriever did. You see Mr Bhatt, they are dogs..biting comes more naturally to them than we would like to believe. I can't help but wonder what kind of people you've been interacting with who think that abandoning or putting dog to sleep is the only way of handling a dog that bites. All around me I have dog owners and lovers, many of whom have been bitten by their pets but none of them have even thought of abandoning their pets. Our children misbehave too. Do we abandon them as well?

Another thing Mr Bhatt no matter how good your domestic help is, the pets somehow always know and can differentiate between the master-owner and the domestic help. In my 35years with various pets, i'm yet to see a case where the pet was more attached to the help than the owner.

What is it that you are trying to imply in your blog I fail to get. That Haldars were cruel owners? That they wanted to abandon their pet/put him to sleep? That Tido was a biting monster? Even if, for the sake of argument, one is to accept what you say, why did you take Tido in? On humanitarian grounds ? And a some money coming in doesn't hurt either right? Why not just refuse? Abandoning a pet is not a big deal in our country as you too are aware. He died in your care Mr Bhatt, not theirs. That puts the blame solely on your head.

You are right Mr Bhatt. No animal lover can bear their loss. But we are dealing with the loss of our babies, Tido and Ballu. There are a lot of angry mothers out there whom you've given sleepless nights. Do you know what it feels like to get up in cold sweat in the middle of the night and realise that the head you loved to pat will never be there? That you'll never hear the welcoming bark ever again in your life? That the drool which spoiled your clothes will never do so again? Are you even capable of understanding the shock that a phone call announcing your pet's death gives you and turns your whole world upside down? No Mr Bhatt you can not. Yes death is inevitable and when time comes each one of us will go. But murder is neither inevitable nor pardonable. Do not add insult to injury by insinuating whatever it is that you are trying to.

Ballu and Tido died in your care and they deserve justice.



By: Tamanna | 13 May 2011

Stella

It is so sad about Tido. I don’t know either party but from reading the blogs it seems like theres some bit of exaggeration from both sides. Tido is being made out to be this badly behaved dog with a voracious appetite for biting people whereas the pictures posted by his owners show an adorable peaceful dog sitting with the family in what appears to be a living room. In the other picture he has on a nice winter coat on, and is posing for the camera. If he was that crazy a dog you would find it hard to even put on a coat for the dog. The owners are going all out in saying that the kennel owner is a money-minded monster with no affection for the dogs when from his post he is clearly saying “no human has the right to put an animal to sleep” and there are people here saying that he has been very helpful and understanding towards their dogs.
It seems there are some people here who’ve never been to this kennel nor have ever met the kennel person but are quite adept at adding fuel to the fire and creating what appears to be a mob frenzy. If you’ve never been to the kennel how can you form this strong an opinion based on 3 window shots and one mug shot of the handler. You’re not even reading what the fellow has written. No where has he said that the owners asked him to put the dog to sleep. And the fact that the owners are taking such a strong stand here means that they really cared for the dog. Unless you have the full story from both sides, have personally met the owners and have seen for yourself what kind of facilities are available at the kennel, lets not make this a circus of sorts. There has to have been some lapse on both sides. Let the 2 parties handle this in a civilized manner. To the owners, all I would say is please be more vigilant about your animals in the future. To the kennel owner, a dog died while in your custody. The situation demands a public apology “in the least”. Whether he was a biter or badly behaved, you took him in. It is not easy to run a kennel, its like you’re running a kids boarding school. You have chosen a career which comes with immense responsibility. If you have the dogs’ best interest at heart, decisions about facilities and other operational decisions will be easy to make. You seem like someone who is concerned about the dogs but if you own a kennel then you’re responsible for the lives of all the animals that live with you, so either up your facilities with a commitment to help the dogs or shut it down if you feel you don’t really care about the animals there.

By: Stella | 13 May 2011

amritika

Dear Mr Rajesh Bhatt
Nothing personal but don’t you think its high time you come out and answer these specific questions ?
1 The infrastructure and the boarding facility in Alfa 11 is absolutely sub standard. In a 15/15 room, where only 3-4 dogs are supposed to be kept, there were 15-20 dogs along with 3 other trainers and their beds. One little air conditioner in the room never seems to work and are non functional throughout the year, as stated by the staff when interrogated. ?

2There is no in house doctor in one the best kennels of this city! The nearest doctor or Alfa 11 preferred doctor , Dr. Josan in Sector 23 market is about half an hour away by car. Rajesh Bhatt and his personal car is only available for some days of a month.?

3 the great training methodologies at Alfa 11. For a weight reducing training, it is very simple: Feed the dog only one time instead of two and chase him down with two other agile dogs.
Rajesh Bhatt says that it is usual for a dog to have cardiac arrest after running and doing exercises, specially in a sprawling facility like Alfa 11! ?
4 The background given to me by the owners, Mr and Mrs Haldar was that he was prone to biting and was relatively unpredictable, which is why he was always kept with the domestic help in their quarters. The domestic help was also bitten by Tido on a number of occasions from a very young age. Did you visit the Halders home the same way the Halders visited you before “trusting “ you and your sweet talk ?
5 Now the question is that at the age of 10 plus, a Golden Retriever who has passed his prime and had been biting people all his life, is now sent for behavior correction? Being so experienced why did you accept him ? Also why did you and Dr Josan insist on getting him sterilized ?
6 I took Tido in because it has been my experience (for the past 26 years working with dog owners and dog organizations) that when a dog starts biting his owners, the first and only reaction is "put the dog to sleep" or "send the dog to an animal shelter" or "abandon him on the road" and this is the reason why ALFA 11 took Tido. Are you a Vet or a Psychologist ? Did you “read” Halders mind about them wanting to put Tido to sleep? If they so much as told you so why didn’t you inform the police? After all 26 years of experience in animal welfare should atleast have taught you that euthanasia is against Indian law. And you needed to lodge a complaint . Why didn’t you do so?
7 Exactly a year before, Tamanna Kanwar of Malibu Town, Gurgaon, lost Ballu, their five year old St Bernard at Alfa 11 on 22nd April, 2010. Again Rajesh Bhatt claimed that it was a cardiac arrest ? Amazing all the dogs that come to you and die … die of cardiac arrest …. Brought on by depression so you say? Maybe this points to something wrong in the training method?
8 @ Raju If People remember he was arrested about 10 years back for training some dogs too much into biting. Why were you arrested and what happened?
9 @Saugat when I brought him home he had bad stomach infection. Second time he came back with respiratory infection. I had asked his handled what was fed to him, to which he got back to me and said nothing. ? A dog stays with you for a day and you feed him nothing? How did the dog get respiratory infection?
10DoggiesDude (Anil ) is a kennel owner in lukhnow and therefore would protect his kind It is totally understandable
11 Mohit Gulati GKC member and and owner of the pug that was in the vodafone add … what do you know of cruelty? Did Rajesh Bhatt train your dog ? Is that why you are defending him? You have earned money from your dog by making it travel in flights and doing filming which are both risky health wise to the dog. What if your pug had died during either ? Plus you need to decide…. in one blog you say the Halders didn’t visit in the other you say they visited for 45 days after making such comments why have you deleted it ?
12 Mr Bhatt Where did you get your training from ? Is the training recognised in India?
Would appreciate some quick logical answers
thank you

By: amritika | 13 May 2011

Arpit


Hi all.. im not sure if i maybe correct at certain places or tilting myself towards Mr Rajesh Bhatt, but wud like to say something, i lost my lab of 3 yrs back at a different farmhouse in gurgaon due to bloating/cardiac arrest. i was in chennai and suddenly got a call of his death so wud dat mean i wud stop trusting the farmhouse owner knowing the fact i got the lab from the same person. wud he kill his own child. i completely agree with ppl that rajesh ji is here to make money but every profession gives us money. If we start nabbing these ppl one by one then 1 day there would not be any boarding facilities available. so what wud U do if incase of an emergency if u need to leave ur pet. I dont say that mr. bhatt has done every thing right. There can be mistakes from all. TEMME if none of u have made a mistake in ur life and learnt from dat. im sure he must have done his best in this situation also. if the dog wud have survived then Halders would have been praising him to the T. I also have left my DOG 3 times and got him back wonderfully. Also MUKUL one of the trainers from the same facility trained him and my dog has WON first prize 2 timesin a row at the IIPTF for the most obedient dog. so can i say that they r not doing there best. i dont think i have anything to say. rest is all upto u to understand and make a decision. we ar all learned ppl and we all have a right to defend ourselves.

By: Arpit | 13 May 2011

Agam Prabhakar

Lol... with due respect to you Arpit...
1) RAJESH BHATT JI..( i wouldnt add JI unless i knew him personally and respected him) wasnt there when it happened, so he didnt DO ANYTHING to the BEST to save TIDO. The Dog was left with the chowkidaar who is now a Dog handler at Alfa 11 since past three MONTHS !!

2) And like you did, do you expect Haldars to get another Dog and leave it with Rajesh Bhatt again...?

Haldars are not into Dog Shows like you..

Also, yes everyone is here to make money with their own profession, but i dont remember that any of my client's child died of my negligence.

You are not TILTING towards MR RAJESH BHATT JI, but you seem to be from his nest..

By: Agam Prabhakar | 13 May 2011

amritika

@Arpit i lost my lab of 3 yrs back at a different farmhouse in gurgaon due to bloating/cardiac arrest. i was in chennai and suddenly got a call of his death so wud dat mean i wud stop trusting the farmhouse owner knowing the fact i got the lab from the same person.If I was you YES I would stop trusting that kennel. The Kennel didnt do you a favor but giving you the Lab he SOLD it to you .That was Business.Then again he couldnt look after the lab you gave him while you were away . Why dont you tell everyone the name of that kennel ? If Mr Bhatt has been good to your dogs ... good for you .I asked some simple questions why doesnt he answer them simply ?

By: amritika | 13 May 2011

amritika

@Arpit i lost my lab of 3 yrs back at a different farmhouse in gurgaon due to bloating/cardiac arrest. i was in chennai and suddenly got a call of his death so wud dat mean i wud stop trusting the farmhouse owner knowing the fact i got the lab from the same person.If I was you YES I would stop trusting that kennel. The Kennel didnt do you a favor but giving you the Lab he SOLD it to you .That was Business.Then again he couldnt look after the lab you gave him while you were away . Why dont you tell everyone the name of that kennel ? If Mr Bhatt has been good to your dogs ... good for you .I asked some simple questions why doesnt he answer them simply ?

By: amritika | 13 May 2011

Admin

@ Amritika
The user Mohit Gulati is removed due to user authentication issues.

By: Admin | 13 May 2011

amritika

@Arpit i lost my lab of 3 yrs back at a different farmhouse in gurgaon due to bloating/cardiac arrest. i was in chennai and suddenly got a call of his death so wud dat mean i wud stop trusting the farmhouse owner knowing the fact i got the lab from the same person.If I was you YES I would stop trusting that kennel. The Kennel didnt do you a favor but giving you the Lab he SOLD it to you .That was Business.Then again he couldnt look after the lab you gave him while you were away . Why dont you tell everyone the name of that kennel ? If Mr Bhatt has been good to your dogs ... good for you .I asked some simple questions why doesnt he answer them simply ?

By: amritika | 13 May 2011

Arpit

@AGAM.. thats the way i always write blogs giving due respect to all. if you dont like it please dont the read the same and i have full right to comment on one and all as this is a mere blog.i have never mentioned in my blog that i expect the HALDAR family to give another dog for the same. best they can do is to change the kennel which i also did or almost all wud do. atleast read english if u cant read between lines -- thanx . also i m not a professional dog breeder or a kennel owner, its just passion which i follow and try taking my dog wherever i go. so as respecting you also AGAM JI please do not coment on who is from whose nest

By: Arpit | 13 May 2011

Arpit

@amritika.. i totally agree with you that rajesh ( RAJESH JI ) shud answer questions on the same. the Haldar family owes a complete apology if he was at fault. as far as my LAB was concerned the breeder wanted to make him a STUD. but he died due to bloating/cardiac dats the reason i think he cudnt have been negligent. i know there was money involved but dats wat i think. there is no name of the kennel but its a breeder's farm.and they keep changing there location.

By: Arpit | 13 May 2011

amritika

@ Arpit .... whose lab was it yours or the breeders? So did the breeder or you want to make it a STUD ? Did he use steroids to make it one ? A healthy young dog doesnt just die of bloating/cardiac arrest . Didnt you even once think to ask/check exactly what happened ?Isnt it fishy that the Breeder doest have a name or a permanent kennel ?

By: amritika | 13 May 2011

hirak ganguly

@ Arpit: One death = change the kennel..!!!! That's the best one can do??

By: hirak ganguly | 13 May 2011

amritika

@ Arpit .... whose lab was it yours or the breeders? So did the breeder or you want to make it a STUD ? Did he use steroids to make it one ? A healthy young dog doesnt just die of bloating/cardiac arrest . Didnt you even once think to ask/check exactly what happened ?Isnt it fishy that the Breeder doest have a name or a permanent kennel ?

By: amritika | 13 May 2011

Agam Prabhakar

Awww didnt know you'll cry so bad Arpit.

1) i never said to not post on this blog or put your opinion here... hence your literacy levels are out in the open.

2) like you say :also i m not a professional dog breeder or a kennel owner, its just passion which i follow and try taking my dog wherever i go.

how did your dog die at a boarding facility if he was always with you. Doesnt say much about your passion, now does it.

3) you got another dog and you leave him at a boarding facility... ( 3 times i.e what you have mentioned) so that means you are simply lying about taking your dog wherever you go.

4) Your kennel owner whated to make your DOG a STUD...?
how does that happen. ? @APRIT JI (JI= whatever)

5) change the kennel after your dog died, then change the kennel when the other one dies and keep this going till you die...lol... great solution.

6) i take back my words about you being from Bhatt's nest... now i definitely know that you are one of his Pappu.

Its a shame that inspite of loosing a dog to some shady and a third class boarding facility, you still leave your pets at a boarding. Doesnt say much about you and your passion.

By: Agam Prabhakar | 13 May 2011

Agam Prabhakar

TRY TO TAKE YOUR DOG EVERYWHERE YOU GO.... YOUR ARENT EVEN TRYING....

By: Agam Prabhakar | 13 May 2011

Arpit

@agam ... i feel really sad for ppl like you who dont know the meaning of certain words hence shows the upbringing that you had. as far as crying is concerned i dont think dat was crying. its just voicing the opinion. also to make things clear im not whatever u said neither im from his nest. also dont tell me dat u take ur dog for a family emergency and for a business trip. as chnging kennel is concerned please temme as wat shud i have done. cud there have been a other way.

@amritika my lab died because he started running soon after eating the meal and bloating happened quite common in breeds like GSD/LAB and maybe others also. No steriods were given for making him a STUD, it was becoz of his sheer built.

@ hirak : temme bro wat else cud i have done in this circumstance.

By: Arpit | 13 May 2011

hirak ganguly

@arpit: I would have done everything apart from giving up but you did nothing apart from giving up..Just imagine if it would have happened to a human kid in a boarding school would you have said the same thing! That just change the boarding school for the next child !! So my friend this is the difference and believe me it's an eye opener for me, for you and for all of us. It's the way how we look at things!!

By: hirak ganguly | 13 May 2011

hirak ganguly

@arpit: I would have done everything apart from giving up but you did nothing apart from giving up..Just imagine if it would have happened to a human kid in a boarding school would you have said the same thing! That just change the boarding school for the next child !! So my friend this is the difference and believe me it's an eye opener for me, for you and for all of us. It's the way how we look at things!!

By: hirak ganguly | 13 May 2011

Agam Prabhakar

No Arpit... if stating facts questions my upbringing( clearly you are hitting on my parents which i suppose doesnt say much about how you were raised) then my upbringing is terrible... so dont fret over that.... care for yours...

I know that you have limited options and sometimes changing the facility is what one has to do.. but you should not justify Rajesh Bhatt and kinds on a forum which is about a death of a Dog ( child to his family) because of Negligence.

Secondly, you gave up on that boarding so easily, why didnt you file a complaint, i know what is bloating and how it happens... it still takes a dog about an Hour before he dies. That hour is what matters.. what did your kennel owner do in that 1 hr.

And as for me... I dont leave my dogs alone/ at a kennel or anywhere else whether its a family emergency or a business trip. I tell my friends or relatives to come and live in my house while i am away. this way, my Dogs dont have to leave the comfort of their own home and the surrounding they are in...

By: Agam Prabhakar | 13 May 2011

amritika

@Arpit why did the dog start running after a meal? dont the kennel people know not to excercise a dog immediately after food? any why did your breeder want to make your lab a stud? Did you buy it as a family member or to earn from it? you should have taken the dog to a vet and gotten him to certify why the dog died and not believe what the kennel people said. besides how do you know whatwas given to the dog? bloating doesnt happen suddenly .obviously the kennel people didnt recognise the symptoms. @Hirak I agree with you @Arpit gave up because it was a dog not a human child sad but true

By: amritika | 13 May 2011

amritika

@Arpit why did the dog start running after a meal? dont the kennel people know not to excercise a dog immediately after food? any why did your breeder want to make your lab a stud? Did you buy it as a family member or to earn from it? you should have taken the dog to a vet and gotten him to certify why the dog died and not believe what the kennel people said. besides how do you know whatwas given to the dog? bloating doesnt happen suddenly .obviously the kennel people didnt recognise the symptoms. @Hirak I agree with you @Arpit gave up because it was a dog not a human child sad but true

By: amritika | 13 May 2011

Agam Prabhakar

Also BLOATING IS NOT COMMON.... It again shows neglect and lack of supervision...

By: Agam Prabhakar | 13 May 2011

hirak ganguly

@arpit: I would have done everything apart from giving up but you did nothing apart from giving up..Just imagine if it would have happened to a human kid in a boarding school would you have said the same thing! That just change the boarding school for the next child !! So my friend this is the difference and believe me it's an eye opener for me, for you and for all of us. It's the way how we look at things!!

By: hirak ganguly | 13 May 2011

amritika

Instead of helping others who have suffered at the hands of breeders kennel owners you want to cover up their mistakes. Let Mr Rajesh Bhatt answer our simple questions. What we have asked again and again isnt Rocket science .Mr Bhatts story has gaping holes in it why doesnt he fill them up and satisfy us common people. And I agree with Agam I too have never left my dogs at a kennel We always have someone who knows them stay with them . I too have a GSD and I know not to make them run after a meal . Lets stick to Alpha 11 here and request someone to reply to our queries so we come to know the truth

By: amritika | 13 May 2011

Agam Prabhakar

Rajesh Bhatt opened up this blog and vanished. says a lot about him and his shady business.

By: Agam Prabhakar | 13 May 2011

hirak ganguly

@arpit: I would have done everything apart from giving up but you did nothing apart from giving up..Just imagine if it would have happened to a human kid in a boarding school would you have said the same thing! That just change the boarding school for the next child !! So my friend this is the difference and believe me it's an eye opener for me, for you and for all of us. It's the way how we look at things!!

By: hirak ganguly | 13 May 2011

Arpit

@agam : i gess i have given due respect to everybody in all the blogs iv written. apologies if my last blog has hit ur parents never meant to do so but certain words ignited. also i never tried to justify rajesh at any given point of time, i put myself into his shoes and then spoke, in my blog to amritika i told her that rajesh owes an apology if he is at fault and the respected haldar family has full right to demand for it. so i gess we have rasied enuf voices for and against. cud you please advise next course of action if rajesh is at fault and if he is not at fault. also wat i konw of my dog is dat the breeder tried to call the doc immediately but my buddy died before the doc reached. doc reched within 15 - 20 mins as told to me. doc also told me the same stuff and since then i have never looked back to that doctor. also i dont have a provision of leaving somebody at my home when im away so boarding the only option left

By: Arpit | 13 May 2011

hirak ganguly

@arpit: I would have done everything apart from giving up but you did nothing apart from giving up..Just imagine if it would have happened to a human kid in a boarding school would you have said the same thing! That just change the boarding school for the next child !! So my friend this is the difference and believe me it's an eye opener for me, for you and for all of us. It's the way how we look at things!!

By: hirak ganguly | 13 May 2011

Agam Prabhakar

Bloating of the stomach is often related to swallowed air (although food and fluid can also be present). It usually happens when there's an abnormal accumulation of air, fluid, and/or foam in the stomach ("gastric dilatation"). tress can be a significant contributing factor also. he ate too fast ate too much food and was in a streessful situation.

So in your case too Arpit the kennel owner was at fault.

BTW @ Arpit... no offence taken.... You did put yourself into his shoes. now pls put your self in Haldar's shoes and write. lets read what you say... also what angered me was what you wrote " @amritika.. i totally agree with you that rajesh ( RAJESH JI ) shud answer questions on the same. the Haldar family owes a complete apology if he was at fault. "

so i dont know who should apologise and to whom. Pls scroll back and read your post where you mentioned this.

By: Agam Prabhakar | 13 May 2011

Anil @ DoggiesDude

Good to see so many comments out of blue. Everyone here seems doing breeder bashing and call them self dog lovers or owners of few dogs. I wonder where they bought there pups from (Ebay or Amazon)?. The source has to be a breeder (even if the person has a single bitch). So kindly stop saying that breeders are blah blah and they do only for money. Everyone works here for money in any field and no one is 100% Truthful in the job. Fact which no ones agrees on face but internally knows about it.

now Bloat. Bloat is NOT an issue of dog being kept somewhere away from the owner. Please read about bloat and reasons.

Ok Even if anyone does not visits the boarding place often but for ONCE would have come to drop the dog there. At that time they should check the facilities.

Some comments are not worth to be answered as they contradict their own points.

By: Anil @ DoggiesDude | 13 May 2011

amritika

DoggiesDude ever heard of adoptions and rescue dogs? those that have been left by families and breeders that cant /wont look after them for some reason at shelters ? those pups that dont fit the breeder bill of being perfect? the indian dogs that are born daily on the streets that have found love in our homes?
Everyone works for money yes but ethically. The facilities according to Halders was checked. According to Tamanna was checked According to Raju was checked . We are asking Mr Bhatt to reply to the questions that have arisen due to his incomplete story. Is that too much to ask?
And About bloating yes I would suggest you surf the net yourself

Stress
Dog shows, mating, whelping, boarding, change in routine, new dog in household, etc.
Activities that result in gulping air
Eating habits, especially...
Elevated food bowls
Rapid eating
Eating dry foods that contain citric acid as a preservative (the risk is even worse if the owner moistens the food)
Eating dry foods that contain fat among the first four ingredients
Drinking too much water too quickly (can cause gulping of air)
Prevention
Avoid highly stressful situations. If you can't avoid them, try to minimize the stress as much as possible. Be extra watchful.
Do not exercise for at least an hour (longer if possible) before and especially after eating
Do not permit rapid eating
Feed 2 or 3 meals daily, instead of just one
Do not give water one hour before or after a meal
do I need to go on ?

By: amritika | 13 May 2011

Agam Prabhakar

apparently a lotta abandoned dogs are from breeders...
and my dogs came for free from a friend and he is not a breeder... he gave all the pups for FREE after interrogating all of us.... so i give a damn to what a breeder thinks... i am so very aware of what standards and kind of living is provided by the breeder to the dogs he/she makes money from... atleast 95% of breeders are disgusting. rest 5% dont need to be here....

also this blog is about Negligence of dogs at Boarding / kennels started by THE FAMOUS ALFA11 OWNER RAJESH BHATT who is missing in action....

i wish to know who mentioned BLOATING as a result of dog being kept somewhere else.?

By: Agam Prabhakar | 13 May 2011

hirak ganguly

@arpit: I would have done everything apart from giving up but you did nothing apart from giving up..Just imagine if it would have happened to a human kid in a boarding school would you have said the same thing! That just change the boarding school for the next child !! So my friend this is the difference and believe me it's an eye opener for me, for you and for all of us. It's the way how we look at things!!

By: hirak ganguly | 13 May 2011

Arpit

@amritika : wat i got to knw was my dog ate too quickly and as a result.... @hirak i completely understand i may have been at fault as i did not fight back for my child but i gess 3 - 4 yrs back there were less avenues or maybe i wasnt aware of the same. it was an opener for me and i gess now all of us.@agam: i agree with you on the fact in our personal interest we have forgotten RAJESH BHATT as he needs to answer certain questions.

By: Arpit | 13 May 2011

Agam Prabhakar

@Arpit... whats lost cant come back... but please try and not take a chance on what you have. Just be extra careful and also if you hear/see anything where something like this happens... pls dont take it lightly... bring it to the attention of other people so they are aware of such places and stay away from there....

By: Agam Prabhakar | 13 May 2011

hirak ganguly

As a layman and without being biased and judgemental, I want to look at a solution to this problem. What is benchmark for a good kennel and what are the parameters by which a standard is set? Is there a site on the internet which rates these kennels? What is basic criterion (apart from being a pet lover) including financial capability to form such a kennel? Is there a body which inspects these kennels before providing a licence to them? Is there a licence at all for this trade? What is the kind of punishment if somebody violates these norms and causes a loss of life like this? If we need to save another innocent life, we need to look at all these questions. The solution is not to avoid all such service providers but to have a standard and benchmark fixed for them with regular supervision by either the government or government authorized bodies.

By: hirak ganguly | 13 May 2011

Anjana Halder

Dear friends, we are touched by your over whelming responses. Thank you.

We still see a few boarders raising the same questions (e.g whether we checked the facility personally or not etc) time and again, while they have been discussed and answered many times earlier. They are perhaps in a loop, which is created by the lack of their appreciation of the real cause. And only they can help themselves getting out of it.
Friends, how do we get the guity punished ? How does Tido & Ballu's (& many more nameless) deaths set a precedence so that no more innocent lives are lost.

By: Anjana Halder | 13 May 2011

Anil @ DoggiesDude

@amritika . Come yourself and see my place and then ask me if i have adopted any rescues. I do not preach but implement. I wonder where you all were when a Pariah dog was sentenced to death in Bihar by Court, How two Danes of Jewellers in Mumbai were kept, how Strays were killed in Meerut.

FYI i have 19 Pariah or Strays rescued living with me. You can check details of them at my websites or FB.

This thread has basically become bashing ground for everyone and as Anjana mentioned the Real cause of this blog has been diluted.

For Topic like Bloat etc i would suggest to start a new thread instead of mixing in this.There i can reply to each of the querries raised by you.

@Hirak.. There are few bodies like AWBI which ONLY asks for fees and does not provides any sort of help/guidance. Emails to them get bounced back and no one is reachable there. Benchmarks are not specific worldwide as it varies as per geographical environment too.


@Anjana. I am not against anyone but the way the thread has gone wary of the way and improper language used in here, i had to answer as sometimes they refered to whole breeder community.


@ First Time Bloggers here.Please stick to the cause of this Thread.

By: Anil @ DoggiesDude | 13 May 2011

Anjali Sharma

Mr. DoggiesDude, I am a member of the Animal Welfare Board of India. I am on the national executive ; and I'm strongly contesting your absurd claim : That the AWBI only asks for fees ??? For what ? Absolutely wrong that we do not provide any sort of help or guidance. Absolutely wrong that e-mails to us bounce back, or that no-one is reachable within the AWBI.

In fact, for the information of all, the Pet Shop, and the Dog Breeding, Marketing and Sale Rules that we've been battling for, and that will NOT put a stop to, but regulate kennels and dog boardings, have been blocked so far, by the pet shop / breeder / kennel operator lobby and their supporters, patrons, or what have you. We'll succeed, but its taking a while ; and in the mean time, sadly, there is no regulation.

And about the AWBI, let me tell you, its a tiny body that is getting a small share of governmental funds. Despite that - despite all constraints in terms of inadequate funds, staff, outreach, etc. - we are doing a lot of work. There are a lot of committed people within the AWBI. Amritika is a co-opted member, and you cant even begin to imagine how much she does.

Coming back to Rajesh Bhatt - yes, all of us have a right to earn money, but ANYBODY who has several children committed to his care dying, or suffering hugely once too many times, becomes badly suspect.


By: Anjali Sharma | 13 May 2011

amritika

@Doggiesdude . Come yourself and see my place and then ask me if i have adopted any rescues.
We are not talking about you or questioning you . We are talking about Rajesh Bhatt and Alpha 11.
I do not preach but implement.
Good For you.
I wonder where you all were when a Pariah dog was sentenced to death in Bihar by Court, How two Danes of Jewellers in Mumbai were kept, how Strays were killed in Meerut.
I do not live in any of those cities but let me Guarantee you In Delhi I am always there for all the animals . Where were you when a dalmatian was locked up for 25 days without food and water and needed rescueing in Delhi ? What did you do for the dogs you mentioned ?

FYI i have 19 Pariah or Strays rescued living with me. You can check details of them at my websites or FB.
Again we are talking about Rajesh Bhatt here, not you .
All my babies are rescues, and I have 8 of them apart from the ones I foster.

This thread has basically become bashing ground for everyone and as Anjana mentioned the Real cause of this blog has been diluted.
The real cause has not been diluted Infact it has been strengthened. We are convincing everyone to open their eyes . The real cause is to beware of all dog boarding kennels and to make sure to check everything out before trusting your babies to such places .And yes beware of unethical breeders too.

For Topic like Bloat etc i would suggest to start a new thread instead of mixing in this.There i can reply to each of the querries raised by you.
Sure why not??? Start it and we shall join you there .

@Hirak.. There are few bodies like AWBI which ONLY asks for fees and does not provides any sort of help/guidance. Emails to them get bounced back and no one is reachable there.
Kindly Do not cast aspirations . AWBI does excellent work and has always been reachable and supportive whenever we have required. Never have I faced the problem of emails sent to them bouncing. Infact they have gone out of their way to come to my aid whenever required
Benchmarks are not specific worldwide as it varies as per geographical environment too.
This is where ethics come in as well as morals.

Instead i can suggest that to have a conference chat/call for al person who wish to suggest any SOLID views.
Are you spokesperson of some organisation? If we have a con call with you what difference would it make and where?

I would request BOTH Mr Rajesh and Haldars to join and come to a conclusion if possible.
Mr Rajesh is the one not replying ,Halders are, very much here .

@Anjana. I am not against anyone but the way the thread has gone wary of the way and improper language used in here, i had to answer as sometimes they refered to whole breeder community.
We do not see any improper language being used here .
The conversations have been polite. Infact we have been constantly asking the same questions without any answers.

By: amritika | 13 May 2011

Agam Prabhakar

it sure hurts when reality bites...

By: Agam Prabhakar | 13 May 2011

Anil @ DoggiesDude

@Amritika. http://www.dogspot.in/shocking -incident-circle-animal-lovers -new-delhi/
I had contacted few bloggers who are present here and got a sad reply that they were helpless.
What i did for them is known to people concerned.

Same goes for you that you are no spokesperson on this subject.

Look at Agam's reply, my dictionary says some words/sentences used are not proper.

By: Anil @ DoggiesDude | 13 May 2011

Agam Prabhakar

@doggiesdude... if you are busy making you you OWN dictionary then stop whining cauz the universe follows a different one..

My reply wasnt to you... the person concerned can defend himself for that... its not a cause and you are no moral police..

People concerned no it all hence we dont know what you did... but you sure love blowing your own trumpet...

Do you even have a clue what Amritika does...? NO... obviously you are too preoccupied talking about what you do ...



By: Agam Prabhakar | 13 May 2011

Agam Prabhakar

@Anil... also next time when you have an issue with my post... pls copy paste what irked you because i dont shy away from apologizing if i am WRONG

By: Agam Prabhakar | 13 May 2011

Admin

The discussion is not going any further and seems not closing soon. We will close this discssions soon.
We can have another thread as in when there is constructive progress on this issue

By: Admin | 13 May 2011

Agam Prabhakar

Since its your website @Admin... we cant question.. but why dont you ask the people on this post as to how many want this closed. For some reasons, even last time Anil was being defended by Admin. Could you help me with the connection...?

We are all waiting for RAJESH BHATT to reply here....

By: Agam Prabhakar | 13 May 2011

Anil @ DoggiesDude

@Agam. Yes the concerned person can defend himself. You are also not a moral police to tell this. Let the concerned parties deal.
I do not blow trumpet. I appreciate any work done by Amritika for Canines.

By: Anil @ DoggiesDude | 13 May 2011

Anjana Halder

Friends, how do we get the guilty punished ? How does Tido & Ballu's (& many more nameless) deaths set a precedence so that no more innocent lives are lost ?

By: Anjana Halder | 13 May 2011

Anil @ DoggiesDude

@Agam. Yes the concerned person can defend himself. You are also not a moral police to tell this. Let the concerned parties deal.
I do not blow trumpet. I appreciate any work done by Amritika for Canines.

By: Anil @ DoggiesDude | 13 May 2011

Agam Prabhakar

lol.... i thought you were the moral police... you took my name and yes its me who is here to defend myself... anyways.. you have always made sure to deviate this thread from the real topic and thats what you are doing now....

By: Agam Prabhakar | 13 May 2011

Anil @ DoggiesDude

i ignore ASL sorta replies

By: Anil @ DoggiesDude | 13 May 2011

Agam Prabhakar

Anjana... sorry this thread is deviated... The cause is being lost in a fight to save some faces....

wonder if a FEW people here dont have much clue about the agony your family might be in and a FEW people who are trying to get BHATT here to speak are being obstructed.

i Hope Tido gets justice

By: Agam Prabhakar | 13 May 2011

amritika

@agam well said . We need Mr Rajesh Bhatt to clear our doubts here . @doggiesdude I neither know Halders nor do I know Mr Bhatt but after reading both blogs Its clear something went wrong . thank you for saying the concerned person can defend himself. It seems you like to get the last word in edgewise. No one had cast aspersions against you Anil so why are you all out in defending all kennels? We know there are all types of people in this world and so will there be all type of kennels.Why dont you leave it here and let Mr Rajesh Bhatt reply?

By: amritika | 13 May 2011

Anjana Halder

Thanks Agam. I am sure Tido will get justice.

By: Anjana Halder | 13 May 2011

amritika

@Anjana may Tido rest in peace and may this fight lead to a logical conclusion .Hope no one else as to go through what Tido did. Hope this opens the eyes of everyone and encourages people to question and observe more

By: amritika | 13 May 2011

amritika

@Anjana may Tido rest in peace and may this fight lead to a logical conclusion .Hope no one else as to go through what Tido did. Hope this opens the eyes of everyone and encourages people to question and observe more

By: amritika | 13 May 2011

Anil @ DoggiesDude

@Amritika .I am not defending anyone. Somewhere it was mentioned that breeders etc are bad and blah blah. If Mr Rajesh is not replying here, why am i to blame? One cannot say that all breeders/boarding places are bad. I just said that things need to be checked before keeping a dog with someone else.

By: Anil @ DoggiesDude | 13 May 2011

amritika

@Anil the first reference to breeders was by me in this comment "Instead of helping others who have suffered at the hands of breedersand kennel owners you want to cover up their mistakes." No where was it a generalisation. Wonder why you took it personally? It was a comment against unethical breeders and kennel owners .Am sure you know many around.

By: amritika | 13 May 2011

NAKUL THAKRAN

Dear Mr. Rajesh Bhatt,

You have always done great job with dogs and you will continue to do so. No one here is God and if this is called murder then we all are murderers in our daily life. You have a wonderful place and if you were doing such a bad job then you would not be having client base of over 600 dog lovers. If people are coming to your place even after reading these blogs then I am sure they trust you. I along with my 3 Great Danes and a Rottweiler ‘Rambo’ whom you had trained so well, have always had great experience at your kennel and will continue to do so. I have been having great experience at your kennel for more than 2 years now.

If people say that you are not a dog lover then I think they are highly mistaken. If you were doing such a bad job then your place would have shut long time back and you would have been into business of dog trading and not dog boarding. You are not running a puppy mill at your backyard. I will again say you have great place and not many people have it, it’s a paradise for dogs.

I have a suggestion for you Mr. Bhatt, you should reply only if you want and no one can compel anyone. People who are trying to show that they are gods should know that they are no god gift to man kind and nobody is perfect. I have personally seen you working hard to make the place better and lot of time, money and hard work is going into it.

Mr. Bhatt if you had such a bad place and dogs were dying at your place then I am sure you would have been very famous for wrong reasons and by now you would have been into the news. But that’s not the case, so it means that you are not doing such a bad job either. Who says you have 15 x 15 room, with one non functional AC and world staying in that room. What I knew is that it is little more than 7 acres and the place has enough rooms with AC to accommodate more than 100 dogs.

I think people who are writing here apart from Halder’s have not even seen the place and just giving there valuable comments without any base.

By: NAKUL THAKRAN | 14 May 2011

Dippankar S Halder

Mr. Thakran,

No comments on your praise or views of Rajesh Bhatt. You have your reasons.

WE ARE SAYING THEY HAVE 15X15 ROOM WITH ONE NON FUNCTIONAL AC, ALL FOR BOARDING DOGS. REST OF THE SHADED FACILITIES, WHATEVER LITTLE, ARE FOR DIFFERENT USE. HAVE YOU SEEN THE PLACE? WHY DON'T YOU GO TO THE FACILITY AND SHOW US SOME PHOTOS OF THE PLACES FOR 100 DOGS BOARDING. Please do not paste the photograph of the lawns, JUST ROOMS PLEASE.

7 Acres of land ? How well do you know the detail of the farmhouse, ownership and commercial details? And who is spending how much money in the facility?

Please do not give informations to misguide pet owners.

To Rajesh Bhatt : Where are you? Please come out and speak out DIRECTLY?

By: Dippankar S Halder | 14 May 2011

Ramesh Taneja

I have been reading this topic since few days. Everyone says about Justice.But what steps to be taken or being taken is unknown.All are shying from telling the same. Alpha Kennels are not responding.

Valid points for and against Alfa (refered as A11) and Grieved family (GF) sums up as below.

1.GF approached A11. They had put an old dog for training which is cruel.Comparing to human age ee must be around 70 years.Does a 70 year old person goes to a training class? A11 should have not accepted an old dog for training. Both A11 and GF guilty on this.

2.Some photos of Rooms are posted. When GF had gone there, did they not see all these? Maybe they ignored it. Wrong appraoch of GF on the aspect.

3.did A11 insist of having the medical history and vaccination records to check if the dog was medically fully vaccinated or not? If this was not provided or asked by either, implies ignorance and negliegence on both A11 and GF.

4.did GF met with the trainer and asked him any questions?

5. A11 says that he takes dog which he dogs which might be left by owners. He assumed the same regarding this dog. A11 should have clarified the same with GF.

6. As stated by A11 that GF visited the dog 2 days before the demise, did they not find anything odd or out of order? If yes did they question A11?

7.2 May he was taken to a vet for blood test as suggested by GF. Was the blood which was drawn from the dog done under good condition? Did the vet use a fresh syringe to take the blood out.the vet also stands questioned as this happened after his blood test. Maybe the procedure for blood test was bad ie improper syringe, used one which could have caused the death.

8. There is mention of cops also. Did GF lodge any complaint? What was the outcome at Police station.

9. Its high time that A11 come up and answer so many questions aimed at him.

10. GF carry on fight if you do not get any answers to your questions.


My view is that both A11 and GF are guilty.

By: Ramesh Taneja | 14 May 2011

Sonia Lall

Dear All
I am Sonia Lall. I am a genuine dog lover and I do some voluntary work for Alfa 11. Tido has been on my mind and I feel terrible about the incident that had happened.

There has been a negligence and the same could have been avoided.

Dear Dippankar & Anjana: Request you to come forward as a conscious citizen and join hands for a better future.
I can be contacted @ soniashuklalall@gmail.com

By: Sonia Lall | 14 May 2011

amritika

@ Ramesh Taneja Please read the other blog on TIDO
TIDO according to Kalders was eight and a half years old .not ten years old as Rajesh says
Halders met Rajesh and were impressed by his display of skills

Why did Rajesh insist on getting TIDO sterilized if TIDO was too old?
the blood tests being done was a preclude to that . If as you imply the syringe was faulty...... ALPHA 11 took TIDO to Dr Josan their consulting vet.
We as concerned people are asking the exact same thing why doesnt Rajesh come forward and clarify what went wrong ?

@Sonia since you Volunteer with Alpha Please request Rajesh to come out in the froum and clarify things. We all want a better future for all the animals .Am sure many people are satisfied with Rajesh and Alpha one. But that doesnt take away from the fact that TIDO and BILLU did die there .Lets all try to help Rajesh in improving his place to make it a better place for all dogs . WHAT SAY ?

By: amritika | 14 May 2011

gspal

Cardiac arrest can also take place when an infusion from an injection or otherwise is not cleared of air bubbles. Very, very sad to hear of pet lovers who have lost their beloved companions due to negligence on the part of another whom they trusted. Vets too are an irresponsible lot where pet companions loose their health soon after a combo vaccine. My earlier Spitz companion lost its health and turned blind a week after a combo vaccine was given at the age of 12. Senior dogs must never be given vaccines. Avoid combo vaccines for puppies too. Rather give individual vaccines a week apart after checking the pup is in good health for the same. Better still get your pet vaccinated from an experienced Vet practicing homeopathy who can administer medicine for any allergic reaction. This is regardless of what vaccine manufacturers blah blah. As pet companions do not talk, most related pet industries of pet food manufacturers, supplements, boarders, breeders, etc. are making moolah off gullible owners/keepers.

By: gspal | 14 May 2011

Anjana Halder

@ Sonia Thank you so much for standing up for the truth.

By: Anjana Halder | 14 May 2011

Tamanna

Dear all

Somewhere along this thread haven't we lost sight why we are all here? Its a given fact that we are all dog lovers in our own limited ways. We wouldn't be here in the first place otherwise right?
Yes we all need to earn a living with a profession of our calling...be it Corporates, breeders or a dog kennel. But every profession entails certain responsibilities and we can't shrug those away. Even in a noble profession like education people are there to earn and I feel that's okay as long as they deliver and are answerable to the consumers. If a mishap was to occur regularly at a children's boarding school, would we not take the institution to task and demand answers? We would and they have to give us answers.

The same applies here.Mr Bhatt clearly is not running a dog boarding for charity. And that is absolutely fine. But at the same time he cannot shrug away the responsibilities that come with it. Yes we all make mistakes. But one cannot shrug away his/her responsibility by either trying to blame the other party or refusing to give answers. Last year when I lost Ballu at Alfa 11, I gave Mr Bhatt the benefit of doubt... may be it was cardiac arrest. But when such a thing happens again and again, well ,I'm sorry Mr Bhatt but you do us some answers. Ballu and Tido are not the only isolated cases..highlighted yes;isolated no.

Mr Nakula Thakran...i agree with you to the extent that Mr Bhatt must have done a good job to have built up a place like that. But why and how do you expect the other ugly side that has emerged in the past few years to be ignored? If he was continuing to do as good a job as you claim, we wouldn't be here in the 1st place, would we? And how can you say that he doesn't owe us any answers? We are his aggrieved customers and not simply of some FMCG. We lost our loved pets there. How can he not owe us some answers? If you had lost one of your dogs there would you still say the same? I don't think so. Fortunately for you but unfortunately for the likes of anjana and me, we have suffered. And he does owe us answers.

We are all entitled to our own opinions but we also have the right to make an informed choice. And that can happen only when we as customers stand up for our rights and demand answers. I think we have been taken for a ride long enough in this banana republic with the "sab chalta hai" attitude. sab nahin chalta hai and we have a right to know and demand answers.

By: Tamanna | 15 May 2011

Anil @ DoggiesDude

@Tamanna... very well said. There has to be some guidelines on boarding facilities. Its responsibility of both the boarding and clients to follow and do the due checkup before.
i hope Sonia can shed some info on the same as she said that she recalls Tido.

By: Anil @ DoggiesDude | 15 May 2011


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