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I want to to adopt a desi dog or buy a Labrador?

Hello Firiends.THis is my First post here. I am planning to buy a pet. So I have two doubts. whether to adopt a desi dog or buy a Labrador. Moreover i want to know are these desi dogs can be adopted,train and brought up as a nice dog. Moreover i am presently residing in Lucknow so do you guys have any info to get a Labrador Dog In Lucknow with all the lineage certificate.Thanks in advance. waiting for a reply.
By Himanshu Jain · 23 Feb 2010 9:47 am

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By Aditya Collins · 23 Feb 2010 9:33 pm
himanshu,
buying a pedigreed dog and adopting a desi dog are two different things . the output you can get from a pedigreed dog cant expect in a desi dog.
i would suggest you to go for 'Golden retriever' rather than a labrador although i m a breeder of labrador & germanshpeherd but still i sugest you if you are planning .....and expecting a good pet then it should be a GOLDEN RETRIEVER NOthing else ..........you can get a pedigreed Golden R....FOR About 15K plus.but your money will not go in wain.....remember buy atleast 2.5 months old pup with KCI registration papers.
ALLL THE BEST
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By Himanshu Jain · 23 Feb 2010 10:26 pm
Thanks a lot Aditya. How much important are these registration papers? I was quoted 5-6.5k for Labrador here in lucknow and 1k extra for registration papers. they said that it will brought from chennai and they are giving 6 months guaranty for the puppy. Frankly i am bit skeptical about their claims. and I asked for golden retriever only from them. But they can only provide labrador :(.
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By Ravinder · 23 Feb 2010 11:26 pm
"6 months guaranty".. against genetics? or what is it about?
sounds too shady to me
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By Himanshu Jain · 23 Feb 2010 11:28 pm
@ Ravinder that it will be a genuine dog and not run of the mill :). dont know their theories. that's why have taken resort to this forum for help.
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By Himanshu Jain · 23 Feb 2010 11:29 pm
any links to get a genuine labrador/golden retriever in Lucknow will realy help.
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By Ashvina.D.Bativala · 01 Mar 2010 8:20 pm
Himanshu I have a lovely 3yrs old male Indian Pariah dog & a 5yrs female Tibatian terrier/Bearded collie mix at home.I adopted him from the streets 2 1/2 yrs back & till today I have no regrets. He simply adore us & my Dad, he is like his shadow,wherever my dad goes he has to be there. He is a very good guard dog too.
Let me tell you one fact our Indian dogs are best suited to our climate & they are very strong dogs,these pedigree dogs i.e. the foreign pedigree are not at all suited to our climatic conditions & have a lot of health problems too. I would advise you to go for for the Indian Pariah dog who is the oldest breed & a pedigree in its own self. Visit your local shelter & I am sure you will find a very beautiful puppy just waiting for you & to be your best friend for life. My friend you will never regret your decision. Go on dogspot & make inquires & ask people who have adopted Indian dogs & I can guarantee you will only get praise from them.
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By Anil @ DoggiesDude · 01 Mar 2010 9:58 pm
i might soon have a litter from my lab ( www.labradors.in)
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By Himanshu Jain · 01 Mar 2010 10:08 pm
right now we are taking care of 9 two months old indian dogs.but how to know that these are pariah dogs?? but they are really swift.
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By RAJIV JAIN · 10 Mar 2010 10:23 am
Dear Himanshu,

I total disagree with few replies that desi dogs cannot be as good as pedigreed dog. I have an Irish Setter and a desi dog. My desi dog who kis just 2 mths old is more intelligent than the Irish Setter.

Its important how you handle dog. Its all in upkeeping of the dog and not the breed which matters.
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By RAJIV JAIN · 10 Mar 2010 10:24 am
further its only status symbol which matters more to many to keep a pedigreed dog.
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By RAJIV JAIN · 10 Mar 2010 10:30 am
i am having an Indian 2 mth old pup. if any body wants to adopt he is most welcome i can mail the photographs. the only reason for giving it for adoption is that my other dog is getting mentally disturbed by this new arrival and has gone in depression. But I can vouch that an Indian dog is more lovable than any other dog .
my no. is 09958566177.

rajiv jain
rgds,
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By Anil @ DoggiesDude · 10 Mar 2010 12:03 pm
"Its important how you handle dog" VZ "the only reason for giving it for adoption is that my other dog is getting mentally disturbed by this new arrival and has gone in depression"

SAD
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By Himanshu Jain · 10 Mar 2010 12:19 pm
@Rajiv.. absolutely :) even i think the same. btw where are you from? any tips to handle/train desi dogs?
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By RAJIV JAIN · 10 Mar 2010 12:29 pm
i am from delhi. training can be given by only by a professional trainer. Indian dogs requires no different handling as any other dog breed. they understand love and they give love as any other dog.
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By Himanshu Jain · 10 Mar 2010 12:34 pm
ohh okai..I am kinda loving all my Desi dogs.they are 9 of them and we are planning to bring up 4 (3 male 1 female) of them for life ling. I will try to find out any trainer near my location to provide them training. can we also check their breed too? means which desi breed( i am just curious:)?
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By RAJIV JAIN · 10 Mar 2010 12:36 pm
sorry. this only a vet can tell you.
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By Himanshu Jain · 10 Mar 2010 12:43 pm
okai. And thanks lot for giving me more confidence to adopt a desi dog
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By amit sharma · 15 Mar 2010 10:23 am
people who unfavourably rate Our Desi dogs are either ignorant about their qualities and intrinsic strengths or are part of the breeder-trader nexus who are earning their bread on the propoganda that only pedigree dogs can be good.Infact when it comes to the complete dog character ,there is hardly any breed that comes even remotely close to Our Desi Mutts.Not to say that pedigree dogs are not good but one has to understand that these pedigree dogs are nothing but the result of generations of in-breeding amongst what once would have been non-pedigree dogs.While doing so ,on one hand the breed developers were able to reach the zenith in respect of the specific task that was in mind for that particular breeding programme, but on the other hand they somehow did pay the penalty of playing with nature in terms of certain disorders/susceptibilities or common problems which generally all breeds suffer from in varying degrees and its in this sense that if We talk about a particular function an x breed may be the best at ,then that is countered by the overall good qualities and strengths that characterise a desi/mongrel/mixed/mutt/pie or any other name which infact means a DOG WHO IS THE MOST NATURAL DESCENDENT OF THE DOG THAT GOD HAD CREATED.I am myself a fancier of pedigree dogs,in particular ,the Mastiffs but I love my Desi dogs also alike not not BECAUSE I pity them or feel that they are any less but because I genuinely know that they have in them what it takes to make the most awesome dog!
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By Ashvina.D.Bativala · 15 Mar 2010 1:40 pm
Do I agree with you. I am looking after a 4 mnth Lab pup & wont believe this pup at this age has aggression in him. Can you believe a lab being aggressive & he is not the first I have come across. I have had to refuse two labradors because they were aggressive. All this is due to excessive & uncontrolled breeding of dogs.
The most amazing thing is that foreigners are eagerly adopting our desi dogs as they are extremely hardy & adjust to any climate easily & plus they are very beautiful too.I recently got my building dog adopted & he is going to Switzerland next month as these people are transferred there.
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By Ashvina.D.Bativala · 28 Mar 2010 2:58 pm
Himanshu if you want a trainer & get one for your Desi Dogs than PLEASE remember one very important thing, when training be sure to be present with the trainer so you can keep an eye on the trainer & learn proper training too. Keep an eye means the trainer can never be cruel with them as it is a known fact that the trainers use cruel methods i.e. old training method. The new method is the reward method which is the best. So when interviewing the prospective trainer do inquire & insist that you be present when training your dogs so even you can learn. ALL THE BEST MY FRIEND You have made an excellent choice.
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By Himanshu Jain · 28 Mar 2010 3:21 pm
Thanks a lot for your suggestions Asvina. I am searching for a trainer in my locality(Sitapur) and will keep in mind your suggestions. and it seems now i am in love with my desi pets. have given them nice names too(Tiger, Mohini,Julie,Bond,Tikka) :). I think many times it's the way we brought up(take care of) a dog and not the breed which decides the way a dog will come up as a good well behaving dog.
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By Himanshu Jain · 08 Apr 2010 10:23 am
One more question. it's really a sad thing that in my town a disease names has parvo has been spread among dogs and 9 out of 10 puppies of ours perished in it. one is remaining. he was given drips for 15 days and now he is just okai. we are giving him liv 52,minerals,vitamins syrups as prescribed by doctors.it's a disease which was really lethal as all my puppies died with vomiting and even doctors said that fatality chances are really high. it was really disheartening to see all my loved ones dies. now with god grace the last one is doing fine. i need some help from expert people here. what should be given to eat to the puppy(3 month old). we are giving him glucose ,electrolyte and paneer. any other help would also be highly appreciated.
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By Ashvina.D.Bativala · 12 Apr 2010 11:04 am
Give him rice gruel thin,if you eat nonveg then very thin chicken soup without the fat on it. You can prepare it one day in advance let it cool in the fridge & then strain it in a strainer & fedd him that. crush marie biscuits & mix in thin lassi without salt or sugar & give him that. Himanshu after he is perfectly ok consult with the doctor & start all the vitamins & calcium & proper food too. All the best with your pup.
My friend Parvovirus is very common among unvaccinated dogs & pups. I hope you have now vaccinated him & dont let him mix with other dogs now & most important his immunity is very very very low so please dont vaccinate him with distemper vaccine now wait for a few months let his immunity develop perfectly & then & only then vaccinate him please. For now please keep him in your home now.
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By Himanshu Jain · 12 Apr 2010 11:39 am
Thanks a lot Ashvina. I suppose rice gruel is the water that is left in which is rice is cooked. We are pure vegetarians so cant give him chicken soup. he is not in drips now and we are feeding him with cottage cheese,some milk, yogurt and chena sweet as prescribed by the local vet here.I will add both the things told by you in his diet.he has become quite thin and weak and most of the times he just lies down and sleeps. we have not vaccinated him still as we were waiting him to be come out of this disease. but it's really a colossal damage for me as i lost 9 out of 10 puppies due to this. I want to know 2-3 things more. First of all when he should be vaccinated now and which is the best vaccination as there were 2-3 vaccination available. also do we have to go for de-worming first? Any link which has the detailed info relating to the same according to Indian conditions will be highly appreciated. and the same time any link which can give info to the other common diseases which can attack the dogs is also needed so that i can protect my puppy from them. Thanks a lot doctor again and just waiting my puppy to become cheerful again.
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By Himanshu Jain · 12 Apr 2010 12:15 pm
One mroe thing. Can we give him water. As initially doctors strongly opposed for giving him water.
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By Ashvina.D.Bativala · 16 Apr 2010 11:51 am
My friend water is the most important for him to survive.Please do give him as much as he wants. You could add a tiny pinch of sugar & salt to his water so he wont lose any body salts & be patient he has come back from death bed so he will take time to heal. If not chicken soup then give him vegetable soup. Sweet chenna & milk could be heavy for him so try & avoid these. There is Rabbies vaccine, Distemper, & Corrona my friend all three are very important & wait for atleast one month & then get a blood test done to check his heamoglobin level if normal then go ahead with it but only after deworming is done.
Himanshu you cant protect your puppy from anything they are like kids if they dont fall ill they dont grow strong. Yes by vaccinating him you could protect him from these deadly diseases like distemper rabbies & parvovirus. My friend do be patient let him get his immunity &then vaccinate him over a period of two weeks i.e. Rabbies & corrona togather & next week Distemper vaccine, not all three togather ok.
I dont have any link on these diseases but you could go on google try but the more you will read the more confused you will get so just relax he is over the worst now. I am not a doctor my friend but I am involved with stray dogs since 20 yrs & have gained experience. Trust me Indian dogs are very strong & they can pull out of the worst of illnesses. Do write to me if you need to know any more. You could try thin Ragi gruel too if he can take it.
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By Anil @ DoggiesDude · 16 Apr 2010 11:57 am
give him half teaspoon of honey. It will give him instant energy for 6-12 hours. Give it twice a day.stop milk
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By Ashvina.D.Bativala · 16 Apr 2010 12:01 pm
Yes right honey is really good Thanks Anil. But I feel diluted very diluted milk could be ok but you could be right.
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By Anil @ DoggiesDude · 16 Apr 2010 12:04 pm
Dogs and cats do not have the proper enzymes to properly break down the sugar in milk which is called 'lactose".You may have heard of people who are lactose-intolerant. They are also missing these digestive enzymes. If the proper enzymes are not present, the lactose remains undigested and tends to ferment in the intestine and cause diarrhea. Some pets can tolerate a little milk, others, none at all. If your pet enjoys and appears to tolerate milk, you can give your pet small amounts.but i suggest since the pup has been vomiting a lot i am sure he will be lactose intolerant. so better not to give milk.
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By Ashvina.D.Bativala · 16 Apr 2010 12:12 pm
Thank you so much Anil. I will definitely remember this. I have told Himanshu to avoid milk.
Anything else he can give this little feller, he is really anxious to get him going.
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By Anil @ DoggiesDude · 16 Apr 2010 12:16 pm
Parvo is basically due to human mistakes (my view * not to offend anyone) if parents are vaccinated duly and unwanted canines do not come close to pup till they have been give puppyDP i am sure things cannot go bad. Also can be a guest who had come was in contact with unvaccinated canine and if carried along.
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By Himanshu Jain · 16 Apr 2010 1:19 pm
Thanks a lot both Mr Ashiwin and Mr Anil. I will just update the thread with the sole remaining puppy's condition.
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By Himanshu Jain · 16 Apr 2010 1:26 pm
Yeah I am a bit anxious as I really want him to survive. I went to local vet here. there is only a government vet hospital and doctors are are good for nothing.Once in a week a senior doc comes from lucknow and we are taking guidance from him too.Puppy started eating in the last few days too. But since yesterday he condition has become worse. after every 45min-1 hour he starts breathing fast turn his head left and right a bit and his saliva starts oozing from his mouth for 1 minute or so. this is happening for the last 1 day. Also he started taking lesser foods.we went to doc and he just said that in may due to toxicity and prescribed few injection which we are giving him. but not at all convincing prescription from docs as they themselves were not sure. SO just crossing finger and giving him all the care he wants.
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By Himanshu Jain · 16 Apr 2010 1:30 pm
@ANil yeah none of there parents were vaccinated and as you know his mother and as a matter of fact all the three mothers of these 10 dogs were street female dogs which happened to give birth to their puppies at our place and we decided to adopt them as otherwise chances of their survival were very remote. this was the time that for the first time i started gaining info about vaccinations and all, thanks to this very forum and guys like you and Ashvina. Just waiting the puppy to be come out of it so that we can give him proper vaccination. Thanks again to both Ashvina and Anil.
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By Himanshu Jain · 16 Apr 2010 1:37 pm
@ Anil I happened to check that you are also from Lucknow. I am from Sitapur(my father is posted here). will surely meet you in Lucknow if chance arises. this puppy will be joined by a lab after a fortnight.that;s why i am more worried that to make him healthy before he comes so that both can get a healthy company.
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